Looks like the Revolution of #Americansabroad is almost here!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/AmericanExpatriates/permalink/474144512751626

The comments are simply amazing. A revolution is clearly coming! It’s amazing to me that there are still people who see this as a partisan issue.

 

 

 

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8 thoughts on “Looks like the Revolution of #Americansabroad is almost here!

  1. mjh49783

    I had just rejoined that Facebook group a couple of days ago. There seems to be a whole lot of anger over there, and it has apparently only gotten worse in my absence.

    I couldn’t help but express my own anger, and frustration, that has been bottling up, ever since I landed in Canada back in 2012. Not to mention my outrage on how pointing out the ways that the US government has been punitive with us, criminalizing us, subjected us to the tyranny of FATCA, etc…. can be considered as America bashing.

    I’m to the point now, where, not only do I just no longer care for the government anymore, that I just no longer care for the country anymore, too.

    My late grandfather fought for that country back in WW II, but when so many of them are now willing to have the government spy upon them, in order to feel safe, (6 out of 10) I’ve come to the conclusion that, perhaps even the Greatest Generation has now fought, and died in vain.

    America is now completely different from the country I grew up in. Alien. I now feel that the only way to save the ideals of America, is to take them with you, and get out of that cursed country as fast as you can.

    I’m hoping that any day now, I will get notice to take the Canadian citizenship test, so I can pass it, take the oath, and become a Canadian, so I can leave America in the past, where it now belongs.

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    1. renounceuscitizenship Post author

      Thanks for this. I believe that the anger and frustration is reaching a new level. It is very clear that the fastest growing and most articulate expressions of anti-Americanism are coming from Americans abroad.

      The U.S. Government doesn’t care. What the U.S. Government thinks is anti-Americanism is here.

      Oh well,

      “Stupid is as stupid does”

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  2. mjh49783

    Well, I don’t know if the revolution has officially started, but I left the group again. For good.

    There seems to be a concerted effort to suppress and intimidate those who’s views might be construed as anti-Americanism, and I’ve had enough of it. How can everyone’s views be effectively heard in a climate like that? How can there be a lively, and productive dialogue, when some voices are intentionally rendered silent by post deletions, and even entire thread deletions? It simply cannot. Not when certain people, I will refer to them as the ‘politeness police’, feel so offended by the raw emotions of others, that they feel entitled to be a law unto themselves, and try and silence those voices. Meanwhile the powers that be, rather than moderate the forum for a proper civil discourse, choose instead, to enforce the laws of the ‘politeness police’, and to sanitize all meaningful discussion.

    That was the last straw for me. Honestly, how much more censorship, intimidation, and hypocrisy, was I willing to tolerate for the ‘greater good’? If that is what passes for civil discourse these days, then I want no more part of it.

    Furthermore, it was really getting to the point where the American expat groups themselves, are just holding me back from being the True Canadian that I really want to be, and that pretty much anything and everything American these days, is now just a taint to be avoided.

    When even the US expat groups now feel so foreign, and alien anymore, and I have more camaraderie with renunciants, and my fellow Canadians, whatever few doubts I had left about relinquishing US citizenship, are now gone.

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    1. renounceuscitizenship Post author

      Sooner or later everybody evolves to the point where they realize that renunciation/relinquishment is the only option.

      There are many people in the world who think, or say they do, that the U.S. government is not deliberately destroying the lives of Americans abroad.

      Let them try to live abroad.

      Also, a lot of those who are sometimes referred to as “Homelanders Abroad” believe they are U.S. tax compliant. They aren’t. You will see how fast they change when they realize what their situation really is.

      Hang in.

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  3. IamNadamerican

    4 people got blocked from a facebook page. As a result, they have started a huge campaign against US persons who disagree with the method that they have chosen to cope with a bad situation. These persons are not fighting against government policy anymore, they are fighting against fellow US persons who don’t act according to their wishes. It appears now that IBS, whose motto had been “Liberty and Justice for US persons abroad” is going to change its focus even further and will make big arguments with anyone who doesn’t renounce their citizenship. This will not further the interest in the fight against what it is going on. But hey, 4 guys got blocked from a facebook site, and that is a big deal that can’t be tolerated.

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    1. renounceuscitizenship Post author

      Thanks for your comment which includes:

      “These persons are not fighting against government policy anymore, they are fighting against fellow US persons who don’t act according to their wishes.”

      It’s bad for Americans abroad to allow themselves to be divided. Very bad, I don’t do Facebook so I have only been peripherally aware of this. But, you also say:

      “It appears now that IBS, whose motto had been “Liberty and Justice for US persons abroad” is going to change its focus even further and will make big arguments with anyone who doesn’t renounce their citizenship.”

      I don’t have that sense. Why do you say that IBS is making arguments with people who don’t renounce citizenship?

      Anyway, I certainly agree with the principle:

      United We Stand!

      Thanks again for your comment.

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    2. mjh49783

      I am fighting for my wife, and for the right to have a normal life. That is something that I will never achieve, as an American expat working within the system. Especially so as other expats are trying to dismiss people’s concerns, and to get them to shut up.

      Far as I’m concerned, dismissing our concerns, and attempting to silence us, is really more an act of betrayal, and it opens our eyes to who our friends really are. So, if they want to cheerlead for THEIR country, while leading THEIR ‘fight’, then that’s THEIR business. It is not my fight anymore, as it is no longer my country.

      From this experience, I have learned one thing, and that is to never trust an American that claims to have your back. That is because he is looking for the ideal place to shove the knife in.

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      1. mjh49783

        Ultimately, protecting my wife’s rights as a Canadian is much more important to me than some stranger’s tax and financial problems.

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